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Post by nori on Nov 26, 2005 15:43:29 GMT -5
. One cannon not be truely mesmerised at how this is done, given the heart never stops for a break/for a rest. 60 years of continuous beating. Now that is an extremely finely tuned organ. a diesel engine could to the same without having to be fixed if given good fuel
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Maelstrom
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Post by Maelstrom on Nov 27, 2005 12:53:56 GMT -5
Fine. Take any other organ. /me is pissed off you've purpously missed the point.
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Post by Asharrod on Dec 14, 2005 10:38:33 GMT -5
well of course if you want to support the theory of intelligent design you could point out that every single thing is governed by the golden ratio... from the sun and planets down to the smallest snail shell..
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Post by Pimpmaster McSlap-Bitch on Dec 14, 2005 11:45:21 GMT -5
Every natural thing... and even then, I couldn`t be COMPLETELY positive of that...
Not that I`ve read huge quantities of text on either subject but I attribute the golden ratio to chaos theory.
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Post by Maelstrom on Dec 14, 2005 12:33:40 GMT -5
Golden ratio?
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Post by Pimpmaster McSlap-Bitch on Dec 14, 2005 21:22:17 GMT -5
Wikipedia says - Golden Ratio The golden ratio is an irrational number, approximately 1.618 033 988 749 894 848, that possesses many interesting properties. Shapes defined by the golden ratio have long been considered aesthetically pleasing in Western cultures, reflecting nature's balance between symmetry and asymmetry and the ancient Pythagorean belief that reality is a numerical reality, except that numbers were not units as we define them today, but were expressions of ratios. The golden ratio is still used frequently in art and design. The golden ratio is also referred to as the golden proportion, golden mean, golden section, golden number, divine proportion or sectio divina. The golden ratio was first studied by ancient mathematicians because of its frequent appearance in geometry and may have even been understood and used as far back in history as the Egyptians. More commonly, however, the discovery of the golden ratio is ascribed to the ancient Greeks, and is usually attributed to Pythagoras (or to the Pythagoreans, notably Theodorus) or to Hippasus of Metapontum. Euclid spoke of the "golden mean" this way, "A straight line is said to have been cut in extreme and mean ratio when, as the whole line is to the greater segment, so is the greater to the lesser". The golden ratio is represented by the Greek letter (phi) or less commonly by รด (tau). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Ratio
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Maelstrom
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Post by Maelstrom on Dec 14, 2005 21:46:38 GMT -5
Ok. What does that have to do with anything?
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Post by Athildur on Dec 15, 2005 6:18:26 GMT -5
...Teh fact that that exact ratio comes up in almost any living thing is a remarkable thing, which would only make a person conclude that it must have been ID responsible, because the coincidence is too great for it to be a random thing.
The golden section is found everywhere in nature, when looking at ratios of the lengths of limbs, or the rings on snail shells, etc, etc. Its really quite impressive and peculiar.
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Maelstrom
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Post by Maelstrom on Dec 15, 2005 8:50:23 GMT -5
Intruiging. 3.14
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Post by Pimpmaster McSlap-Bitch on Dec 15, 2005 20:25:31 GMT -5
Chaos Theory
In mathematics and physics, chaos theory deals with the behavior of certain nonlinear dynamical systems that (under certain conditions) exhibit the phenomenon known as chaos, most famously characterised by sensitivity to initial conditions (see butterfly effect). As a result of this sensitivity, the observed behavior of physical systems that exhibit chaos appears to be random, even though the model of the system is 'deterministic' in the sense that it is well defined and contains no random parameters. Examples of such systems include the atmosphere, the solar system, plate tectonics, turbulent fluids, economies, and population growth.
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Athildur
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Post by Athildur on Dec 18, 2005 17:25:42 GMT -5
Maelstrom, 3.14 has nothing to do with it . We're talking Phi here, not Pi . it's something like 1.61 or 1.62
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Post by godsrighthand on Dec 30, 2005 19:54:24 GMT -5
If there was an intelligent creator he would not have made the human race.
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Post by Pimpmaster McSlap-Bitch on Dec 31, 2005 20:13:52 GMT -5
Maybe he learns too
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