Abortion (Mothers dilemma)

[Pimpmaster McSlap-Bitch]

Abortion. Is it right? Should the mother be allowed to give up her unborn child? Well... is it her unborn child? Does she have a right to take a life for any reason?

I say she does. We`ve all heard the worst case senarios if we`ve had this discussion before: Maybe we`ve used it against a prolife right winger: "What if the female was raped by her father?" or "What if the female is told her baby will live in terrible pain for the rest of its life?". Although I hate these arguements cause they seem so cliche, they are very convincing. What if indeed? What if the mother can`t support the child or take care of it emotionally? It gets interesting when we take the extreme 'what if' examples and tone them down notches until we come to everyday senarios. What if the father is dead or has abandoned the family? Is this reason to kill a child? Is the life the mothers to take? Can the government interviene to save a life if it is not the mothers life to take?

The past paragraph poses many questions. Questions that have answers that depend on the specific situation, but more problematic, morality, which is humanly (if there is such a word) reletive. I believe in those extreme cases abortion should be allowed and accepted, but as the cases become less extreme, my opinion becomes more flaky.

I feel as if I`ve answered this all by myself, but my opinion probably isn`t fact. So, if you have an opinion on if mothers should be able to abort children, or if it is theirs to abort, or on anything else regarding mothers, abortion and the government, feel free to kick my ass and tell me I`m completely wrong and should go to hell or agree and pose your position.

[darkoneofpower]

I also agree with you here. I believe if you spead the legs willingly and willingingly induce in "the act" that you need to take on the price for that choice. Abortion shouldn't easy like that. You know what you did, you deserve what you get in that sense. But as for getting raped, I believe that the mother has every right to abort. As for telling who and who is not ready to meantally support a child... you can never tell. I mean look at the perfectly sane seeming mothers who kill their kids due to that depression thing that only happens after pregnacy.

[KitsuneTsuki]

Postpartum Depression.

As for abortion I don't really think it's right even in the cases of rape, incest, etc, but I can't imagine what goes through a woman's mind after these events, thus I don't really think I should have a say in their decisions.

However when it's from the case of simply engaging in sex, I'm completely against abortion. It allows people to get away with being irrisponsible for their actions, and ultimately I think the act of sex is something you really need to be ready to handle all possible outcomes before doing, and abortion basically allows people to avoid doing this.

[Pimpmaster McSlap-Bitch]

But if the woman is raped, who is expected to take care of the baby when it is born? Who is expected to take care of the baby before it is born? Is it right to have the mother take care of a baby, acting as a reminder of how she was violated, for 9 months, through physical and mental trauma, morning sickness, etc., and feelings of shame, disgust and humiliation? I couldn`t even imagine how much that would suck. And to think that there are women who would keep a child because of their personal or religious beliefs...

Anyway, apart from that Kitsune, I agree with you completely, especially with regards to irresponsibility. Abortion could one day become a contraceptive.

[GoGoCactusMan]

I belive that it is a woman's choice and only a woman's choice when it comes to abortion. I think that the fact that Bush is trying to outlaw it and make it illegal is absolutly outrageous. No man, even if he is in charge of this goddamn country, has the right to place laws on women's bodies. I think that even if you're against abortion, if the vote comes up again, vote in favor, just because abortion is legal, it doesn't mean you have to like it or partake in it, but don't take away the choice. The same with gay marriage, even if you don't agree with it, don't take the right away.

[Pimpmaster McSlap-Bitch]

That was an excellent point. Excellence.

[KitsuneTsuki]

I know exactly what you mean Kage and I understand that.

Again, I don't think anyone who hasn't been in that situation really has any idea what they would do and thus shouldn't have a say in it.

However, I do still feel regardless of the situation killing an unborn child even in the cases you've given is wrong. It might be the lesser of two evils instead of having the woman bear the child, go into depression, neglect the child and essentially destroy both their lives, however I still don't think it's something you can consider an innocent solution.