Humans breast feeding animals?

[godsrighthand]

This surprised me, but legends of animals feeding humans abound in history.

Yahoo News

YANGON (AFP) - A rare Bengal tiger whose last litter died has delivered three tiger cubs in a zoo in the Myanmar capital Yangon but an experienced woman is on standby to breast-feed the cubs if needed, a zoo official said.

The Thai tiger, Noah Noah, gave birth to the cubs on September 8 after losing her first litter earlier this year.

She killed one in March and the other two died several weeks later from dehydration despite being breast-fed for two weeks by Hla Htay, 40, a relative of a Yangon Zoological Gardens staffer.

"We don't know yet how many female and male tiger cubs are among the three because people are not allowed to go near the tiger mother and her cubs," Saw Win, the zoo's administration officer, told AFP.

"We are paying very close attention and looking after them very carefully because we worry that we may lose the cubs again," he added.

The tiger mother and her cubs are being kept out of public view to increase the chances of the cubs' survival and are being monitored through a closed-circuit television camera, Saw Win said.

"We made the mistake last time of allowing people to see them after she gave birth," he said. Zoo officials believe this frightened the mother and led her to kill one of the cubs.

If Noah Noah kills any of her cubs again, "we'll have to consider again allowing a human mother to breast-feed them," Saw Win said, adding "we are hoping that this will not happen."

"She loves her children very much," he added.

Noah Noah's last litter were the first cubs born at the zoo for 16 years. Noah Noah and her mate were among two pairs of tigers sent from Thailand under an animal exchange program in 2001.

Her first cubs had trouble digesting human breast milk, which combined with Myanmar's grinding summer heat proved fatal, Khin Maung Win, chief veterinarian at the Yangon zoo, said in May.

The cubs were reportedly due to be stuffed and put on display in the zoo.

One year ago Myanmar's military government created the world's largest tiger reserve to protect its big cats, 250 of which remain in the wild.

I hear animal potesters namely PETA will protest outside of Aulstralian embasies with the flag painted on thier buttocks.
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So the question is can sex and human milk save the earths endangerd species? o.O

[Athildur]

Er....this is some thing you ahve here...
But honestly, human breast milk is not made to sustain and feed creatures of any other species than human. Perhaps closely related apes or simians could survive on it, but even then. Human breast milk is made up out of proteins which we use in the building and protecting of our own bodies. We need those proteins, because if we do not get them through food or drink, our body will start breaking down the DNA strings and other pasrts of our cells to gain the necessary proteins, which will eventually lead to death. It is no other thing with anumals. For example, the breast mil a female tiger produces contains specific proteins the cubs will need. If human breastmilk were to be administered, they would have sortage of certain proteins, and they would be likely to die. Combine this with the fact that, as stated in the article, human breastmilk cannot be easily digested by most animals, and you have a large possibility of the younglings dying.

so basically: No.

[Pimpmaster McSlap-Bitch]

I agree.

I`m wondering what will happen if the Tiger and the breast lady ever meet. I mean the tiger is bound to recognize the scent of another female on the breath of her kids right? Jealousy ensues perhaps?

Maybe I`m not reading it correctly but WHY THE FUCK ISN`T THE TIGER FEEDING HER KIDS?

And why isn`t this in Deep Thoughts...?

[Athildur]

Well, there are more cases of animal mothers abandoning their cubs for reasons unknown. For some reason, public display and cleaners might have dire influences on the psychological state of the mother. If she is for some reason overly stressed or confused, she might be absorbed into herself, or pessismistic even, and forget or purposely ignore her cubs, because she has no room in her mind or life for them at the given moment. It's like human mothers putting kids up for adoption, except tigers can't put their cubs up for adoption.

As for the human 'breast' (which is basically all she is for the cubs) and the mother...I think the mother will be used to her scent and not do a very lot about it. The cubs give off her smell, and if the mother resumes care of her cubs, she will come to recognize the smell as not being a threat. Then again, she might just pounce unexpectedly...

And this is not in there because....er, I dunno...Mods, admins, do something! .

[Sephiroth Kaizen]

... you know... humans are surprisingly creative and surprisingly stupid. If these people are working at a zoo... shouldn't they know that human milk cannot sustain an animal? Seriously, wth are these people thinking? And who the hell wants a tiger cut sinking its teeth into their breast?

And I'll move it. Don't worry about it. I was wondering why this is in here too.

[godsrighthand]

I thought this was too explicit to put in General or Deep thoughts being an obviously shallow topic sexual in nature.
Sorry

But to be honest my older sister was raised on goat milk to keep her alive. She was allergic to human and cow milk.

It’s not so far fetched if there are no other factors like the extreme heat, the newborn cub could not take the heat. Then the milk might have digested. Emergency measures are seldom neat and fail proof.

[Athildur]

Human babies can survive on goat/cow milk, yes...but that does not mean it is so for any other type of animal (yeah I know, there goes our pride, but we are animals ). You'd need to have the reports on some major tests on all kinds of milk (mainly a scan for proteins) and on all kinds of animal cells. Only then would you know what proteins the cells would require to function without any serious damage, and what kinds of milk could possibly sustain that creature. I'll agree that in general, milk contains a large portion of proteins any creature needs, but I'm pretty sure it's not enough for any kind of animal to live off of. I'm no biological/chemical expert, so I don't know the specifics, but it probably won't work on tha majority of animals and 'subjects'. And it might work for some (who have genetic advantage over others by being able to survive longer without certain sustenance).

[nori]

athildur said:

You'd need to have the reports on some major tests on all kinds of milk (mainly a scan for proteins) and on all kinds of animal cells. Only then would you know what proteins the cells would require to function without any serious damage

no offense but you think they wouldnt have done that?!
they would suddenly go "oh, its not drinking its mothers milk, lets give up hundreds of thousands of pounds a month to house these animals and try out human breast milk soo they can die whitout even knowing it was safe"
if you think they handt tryed this stuff out go die, coz its common sense. just coz coz there chinck doesnt mean there dumb
milk is milk all human milk might do is provide different antibodys to protects its viral system, i doubt that tiger milk differs from human milk that much at all other than make and origin.
dont get soo up your own arse that you think you know what these guys have done wrong, they do it for a living day in day out and have quite a bit of equipment at there disposal so they know a fuck load more than you do

[Athildur]

Did I anywhere state that they did not do that? I think not. I merely stated you'd need to have the equipment to figure out whether it could work...
And since you clearly have no clue either, don't go rambling around insinuating my stupidity...
But then, honestly, I know there are smart people out there, but there seem to be plenty of 'stupid things' going around...this is not country related, it happens everywhere on the entire planet. Sometimes, people just assume what they believe is probable and act on that. (Before you go rambling again, I am not saying that's what these people did, I'm saying it happens)

And yet I wonder why it is that tiger cubs all round the globe, including other places (zoos) where it is hot like here, DO survive with their mother's own milk. Common sense tells me that since they can survive just fine in these conditions (and have done so for a long, long time over and over again), why shouldn't the cubs mentioned here? My sense tells me it must be the only deviating factor, namely the mother's milk they receive. And then even more so I have to wonder whether the public really has that big an effect on the tiger. I have no idea how long she's been in the zoo, but by the time she's been there for some years, you'd think the mother would've been accostumed to the public standing out there...and the cubs don't know anything else, so they shouldn't have too big a problem with it either...and it's not like people go harassing the tigers at the zoo, at least not that I ever noticed that being done...so there's no exceptional disruption in comparison to the tigers' everyday life, is there?

I'm sorry, but as far as Ihave read, seen, whatevered, I stand in firm belief that it was the milk. I suppose I could attest it to chance...but I'm not all that keen on putting things off as mere chance...

P.S.: Oh, by the way, since tigers are solely dependant on proteins received from meat, they could very well have different needs in terms of proteins than we humand have...I guess I'll have to do some research on this one if I am to understand it all...